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NomadLee9
Contributing Member

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2012 :  05:43:04 AM  Show Profile Send NomadLee9 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi there,
My husband & I are new admirers of the Eagle Cap 1165. Currently, we own a Dodge 1 ton diesel (NOT a dually), quad cab, long bed with E rated tires and air bags. We're currently on the road for 2.5 months with it hauling a Lance 990 slide-in whose wet weight we estimate at 5000-5500 lbs. and the Dodge is performing like a champ even over the passes in Colorado where we live. 2 knowledgeable guys have said they think our Dodge can handle the 6000 lb. payload suggested for the 1165. While we realize a dually is best for stability/COG issues, does anyone have an opinion on whether we could stagger our purchases? Specifically, buy an 1165, haul it with our current non-dually 1 ton to CA where we're campground hosting next summer, take it off our Dodge for 6 months, put it back on in October 2013, haul it to Colorado THEN purchase a dually? BTW, what do you haul your 1165 with?
Many thanks for any input.
Lisa O'Dell

skiierdave
Senior Member

USA
226 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2012 :  08:51:35 AM  Show Profile Send skiierdave a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is no way I would put the 1165 on a SRW truck!! I have a EC 1050 and that camper requires a dually, there is a major difference between a 990 and an 1165. Buy the correct truck first!

2009 1050 with most options
2011 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 4X4 DSL, Rancho RS 9000XL shocks and Stable loads.
USN Retired (ETCM,QMCM, COB/SS)
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3 tons
Advanced Member



USA
649 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2012 :  9:20:04 PM  Show Profile Send 3 tons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Two 'knowledgeable' guys"??...Not to pile on but I well concur with Skiierdave, this is SERIOUS dually territory only. My 995 (loaded) about maxxes-out my 2007 Dodge dually even with suspension upgrades (tembrens & sway-stops). You'll also be waaaay over SRW 17" tire capacity. Though I too admire the 1165, I wouldn't attempt it.

3 tons
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U.F.O
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Canada
105 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2012 :  03:00:52 AM  Show Profile Send U.F.O a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Im over on my gvw on my 97 f-350 dually with a loaded 950. New trucks gvws are higher but they weigh a lot more too. Beautifull camper but you need the right truck, unless you use it in your driveway.

Frank

2009 950 Eagle Cap
97 F-350 SC PSD Dually
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durango
Contributing Member

Canada
65 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2012 :  06:02:08 AM  Show Profile Send durango a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We have 1160 - 2008 and dually truck is required.

If you are looking to buy a new truck, the new GMC upgrade the payload capacity over 2000 lbs. It is actually the one who accept the higher load.

Actually with our GMC 2010 we are overload around 500 800 lbs.




Durango
2015 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Diesel
Dually
2008 Eagle Cap 1160
Quebec (Canada)

Edited by - durango on 10/20/2012 06:02:47 AM
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NomadLee9
Contributing Member

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2012 :  08:10:01 AM  Show Profile Send NomadLee9 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the great comments. We will look at the GMC. In the meantime, on our travels we will visit a few dealers that have both 1160's & 1165's. I'm sure it's better to get in them rather than shop on line. Have a great day and may your travels bring sunshine!
Lisa
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thepadg
Advanced Member



USA
615 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2012 :  2:07:16 PM  Show Profile Send thepadg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If I were to concider buying an 1165 I would be looking at a 450 (Ford) or 4500 (Gm or Dodge) For that large of unit. You will find that the 450/4500 will handle it much better then a 350/3500. That's a lot of weaght for even a one ton dually.

thepadg
2007 Dodge Ram 3500 Dually Cummins Diesel
2004 Eagle Cap 1150 with slide
2001 Excel 33 RLE 5th Wheel

Edited by - thepadg on 11/05/2012 2:08:01 PM
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lwokral
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USA
70 Posts

Posted - 11/17/2012 :  09:49:59 AM  Show Profile Send lwokral a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a 2005 EC 1150 on a 2003 Dodge 3500 SRW (Cummins diesel and 6 speed manual transmission). I did upgrade to Rickson 19" wheels with G rated tires. I also added "Extreme Duty" Timbrens. Loaded up, I am well above the Dodge manufacturer's rear axle weight limitation and just about right on the Dodge manufacturer's front axle limitation. Of course I am also substantially over the total Dodge GVW. The actual manufacturer of the rear axle has a much higher weight limitation and within my actual rear axle wet weight (sorry, I don't have the numbers handy, but others here have stated them on this website). The G rated tires on the Ricksons allow the actual real wet weights. I have made several long distance trips with this setup. I haven't experienced sway, but I do get front to rear rocking on rough roads sometimes. My wife hates this. I have not upgraded the shocks yet, but I'll bet that would substantially help with this.

All the above being said, I wouldn't consider putting the 1165 on this truck. I would like an 1165, but I don't want to upgrade my truck just yet because it is in excellent condition and it is paid for. When the camper isn't on the truck, I prefer a SRW over a dually - fits in the garage better, fewer tires to purchase, and gets better fuel economy. I would like a rear slideout model with a couch. That brings up the EC 1160 as an option that would be heavier than my 1150 but lighter than the 1165. Still, I don't want to change trucks yet, so the 1160's weight would likely still be to much for my setup.
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keystonekid215
Contributing Member

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2013 :  6:37:16 PM  Show Profile Send keystonekid215 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We are considering purchasing an 2013 or 2014 1165, but my husband is extremely concerned about the weight, especially braking. All the numbers add up to being overloaded. We have a 2013 Chev 3500 DRW diesel. We'd like to hear from owners of an 1165, particularly with the same truck as ours. What have you done to feel comfortable carrying the camper? Thank You!!

Greg and Jody
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rcgreb
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USA
159 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2013 :  08:17:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit rcgreb's Homepage Send rcgreb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Keystone,
I can't and wont' say you will or wont be overloaded on the truck with that camper, but will say with that truck braking will be the least of your worries, I have an 07 chevy dually and tow a total weight of about 22,000 thousand pounds and never had an issue with breaking, unless of course you have to do a panick stop then you would have problems with anything. Your truck is even better for breaking with the engine break that is now standard with the duramax and allison transmission.

2007 chevy classic 3500 Crewcab Dually.
2004 1150 Eagle Cap ser# 776
3000 watt Inverter
honda eu2000
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1200eagle
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Posted - 06/09/2016 :  1:44:42 PM  Show Profile Send 1200eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We have a 2005 Dodge 3500 dually with airbags, We would like to purchase a 2016 model 1200 Camper...will this truck haul it?? Our tires are rated 'E', do we need to go to a higher rated tire??
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3 tons
Advanced Member



USA
649 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2016 :  7:36:14 PM  Show Profile Send 3 tons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The short responsible answer is no.... Can it be done is up to you...the GVWR of your truck can be found on the drivers door, subtract the vehicle weight and about 150# per passenger and fuel to arrive at your remaining payload.... The E tires are likely not the weight limitation.... Just guessing but the 1200 is likely about 6000# with batteries (62 per), LPG, options and fresh water in tank and water heater - my 995 loaded and with 60 gal water is about 4,900#...My trucks GVWR is 12,200#

I've added two extra leafs per rear side along with stable loads on my 07 Ram QC dually diesel 4x4, with a EC 995 and it works very well, at the most though I wouldn't go beyond a 1160....

3 tons

Edited by - 3 tons on 06/09/2016 7:51:32 PM
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1200eagle
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Posted - 06/09/2016 :  11:05:45 PM  Show Profile Send 1200eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much for your help....
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3 tons
Advanced Member



USA
649 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2016 :  4:13:55 PM  Show Profile Send 3 tons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BTW the new 3500 Ram LB dually 4x4 GVWR is now up to 14,000#..... Payload is now a whopping 5,830, and goes even higher with the base gas engine....So much for the outdated moniker of a 'one ton'!!.... Should get our new ordered Ram next week...

3 tons

Edited by - 3 tons on 06/10/2016 4:17:04 PM
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