2017 eagle cap 1165
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I have ordered a 2017 1165. It will be sitting on a early 2007 Chevy 1 ton dually that has stock suspension other that firestone air bags. I would really like to know what my overall height is going to be. I had a artic fox 1150 that fit in my building but I'm thinking this one will be a bit taller.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris
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#2
11' 9" as a wild a$$ guess. Depends partly on the truck bed height to start with. As a rule, most all campers come in at under 12' height when mounted on a standard pickup truck bed.
I traded in the problematic 2014 Lance for an 1150 Arctic Fox - wish EC made the 1150.
The rig looks similar to this - nothing exceeds factory weight limits.
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(05-01-2016, 04:25 PM)Chris Fisher Wrote: I have ordered a 2017 1165. It will be sitting on a early 2007 Chevy 1 ton dually that has stock suspension other that firestone air bags. I would really like to know what my overall height is going to be. I had a artic fox 1150 that fit in my building but I'm thinking this one will be a bit taller.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris

I measured the 1160 which is almost the same framing as the 1165 at 118" from bottom of camper floor to top of air conditioner. My 995 was 109.5" and when sitting on my truck the total height was 12'-0" without the 1" pink board under the bed mat. Based on that I was expecting the 1160/1165 to be 8.5" higher coming in at 12'-8.5"...which for me was too tall for my shop door of 12'-7.5".

The over the rail floor design gives them great storage, but a lot of extra height.
2016 Lance 1172, loaded with most options (formerly 2012 EC 995)
2012 RAM 3500 DRW, 6.7L DSL, Ride Rite bags, Rancho 9000s, Upper StableLoads, TL SuperHitch, ties, and Fastguns, Helwig Sway bar
2004 18ft Lund Fishermen
2004 Wrangler
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#4
Thanks, currently my door opening is 12' 2 1/2". I can raise the opening 6 to 8 " without much effort. Sounds like I better do this before making the doors for this building.
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(05-09-2016, 07:36 AM)Chris Fisher Wrote: Thanks, currently my door opening is 12' 2 1/2". I can raise the opening 6 to 8 " without much effort. Sounds like I better do this before making the doors for this building.

I measured first on the 1160 and since my shop is built, it was a deal breaker for me. We ended up going with the Lance 1172 instead which is very similar to the 1160 except it has less exterior storage, 500#+ less weight, 8 inches less height and about $11k less.
2016 Lance 1172, loaded with most options (formerly 2012 EC 995)
2012 RAM 3500 DRW, 6.7L DSL, Ride Rite bags, Rancho 9000s, Upper StableLoads, TL SuperHitch, ties, and Fastguns, Helwig Sway bar
2004 18ft Lund Fishermen
2004 Wrangler
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Hi Chris, no judgment but are you worried about being over the GCVW? I have a 2007 Ram 3500 dually and would LOVE to buy an 1165 but until I an afford a 4500 or 5500, I going to stay with my 2012 Lance 992. What is the weight of the 2017 1165?
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(05-10-2016, 05:56 PM)Flyfisherman Wrote: Hi Chris, no judgment but are you worried about being over the GCVW? I have a 2007 Ram 3500 dually and would LOVE to buy an 1165 but until I an afford a 4500 or 5500, I going to stay with my 2012 Lance 992. What is the weight of the 2017 1165?

I will not be over GCVW when towing as well as the GAWR of each axle. I will be over the GVWR, however. My EC 995 was about 4000# with options installed, 60 gal water and full propane. The Lance optioned with water and propane is 4377#. Again I will be over GVWR, but under the GAWR for each..I will be upgrading to 19.5 Rickson rims and H rated tires this fall which is the weakest link. I have been running TC's for many years and am usually always over GVWR. Might go with a new truck next year but with all the mods and especially the tires/rim combination, I am confident it will do well.
The 1165 is 4781# dry and would be over 500# more with water and propane then add another 1000# of stuff...very heavy...there are many of them running around on 350/3500 trucks...doesn't make it right, but they are doing it.
2016 Lance 1172, loaded with most options (formerly 2012 EC 995)
2012 RAM 3500 DRW, 6.7L DSL, Ride Rite bags, Rancho 9000s, Upper StableLoads, TL SuperHitch, ties, and Fastguns, Helwig Sway bar
2004 18ft Lund Fishermen
2004 Wrangler
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#8
I plan to have the rear leaf springs reworked, new shocks, and leafs added to the overloads. I also plan to upgrade the breaks. I have already completed several upgrades to the drivetrain. Tires and rearend are rated at about 12k.
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(05-10-2016, 08:35 PM)Curahee Wrote: The 1165 is 4781# dry and would be over 500# more with water and propane then add another 1000# of stuff...very heavy

The 4781 dry weight is without options... not sure how you ordered yours?
I took my 2016 1165 to weigh it this spring after de-winterizing and found out it weighed 5580 lbs with (2) 6v batteries and full propane, without any water. And that was before I loaded any of my stuff.
I haven't weighed it yet with full water and my stuff loaded... but I'm guessing it will be at least 6800!
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#10
What upgrades do they add to a 450 vs. a 350 suspension wise?
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